RobJohnstone	HI Rick!
JoannaTakes	Welcome to the first Woodworker's Journal live online chat. Our expert tonight is WJ editor Rob Johnstone, "speaking" on the topic of Woodworking's Past and Future. Thanks to Rockler Woodworking and Hardware for sponsoring this chat. Please feel free to submit your woodworking questions and stories.
RobJohnstone	So what are you guys wanting to talk about tonight?
RobJohnstone	Hi Evil!
rick_l	i knew a rob johnstone from upstate ny...dont suppoase you are the same?
wvwcraft	good evening
RobJohnstone	Nope, from the frozen tundra of Minnesota.
PapaCookie	Good evening from Washington State
RobJohnstone	Hello crafty
Evil-Winky	Try North Dakota
wvwcraft	good evening from the Rockies
RobJohnstone	Papa cookie ... is that Girlscout cookie?
PapaCookie	Let me clarify that....Central Washington State....not the rainy side of state.
PapaCookie	I am a professional Chef/Dietician-Nutritionist/Writer
RobJohnstone	Hello Hpznrc, ivan. joe,and all
PapaCookie	Woodworking is a hobby......I teach 4-H youth
joe	hi rob, thanks for bringing the speaker cabinet back
Evil-Winky	Its a living for me
RobJohnstone	We are totally retro ... and you are welcome for the speaker cabinet
hpxncr	Hi All
RobJohnstone	What does the group think the next ten years will bring in woodworking?
wvwcraft	I make custom wood furniture for a living. Been doing this for 13 years.
rick_l	new composite products.as wood species dry up and get more expensive
Jack	Higher costs for wood, especially the exotic South American
RobJohnstone	Does veneer have a bigger role in the future?
wvwcraft	The next ten years will bring new man-made materials
rick_l	sheet goods are out of sight around here
Jack	I expect so
Evil-Winky	I hope a trend back to traditional styles
rick_l	many here use veneer over mdf
RobJohnstone	Dresdner, I thought you might have been evil winky or papa cookie
wvwcraft	conventional lumber getting more expensive, especially for furniture applications
glenn	Is Rob with us yet??
PapaCookie	That means I would have to go buy a saw to cut veneer....crud...I just purchased a Tablesaw, and a compound miter saw with laser...wife gave me a router table for birthday...I don't want to buy anymore equipment for a while
Evil-Winky	MDF is much more stable
RobJohnstone	I am here and ready for all questions ... even woodworking questions!
Dresdner	I don't hide, Rob. I'm too big, and my shirts are too loud for that.
RobJohnstone	Makes sense
-Sam-	Hi Rob!
RobJohnstone	Hey Sam
Bill	Hello from Central NY
Terry	Wow,lots of people here ,g/day to you all from Wagga Wagga
PapaCookie	can anyone recommend a good book on router techniques and one that explains router bits? I am learning how to use...
Evil-Winky	Dont under estimate The value of veneers or mdf. Everything has it place
glenn	ROB: Whats the word on the "Wood Working Channel" via internet?
RobJohnstone	I think it will be starting up soon (if it has not already).
Neil	evening all from north west Vt
wnc	Hi Rob---what's the best way to prep soft maple so the stain doesn't turn blotchy?
rick_l	the people we deal with just cannot accept mdf
glenn	Rob: Have been getting updates but, nothing online yet. Frm Glenn, Nueva Jersey
jcarver	Rob, Veneer has been used traditionally to cut on costs, however we have an antique table that was veneered which has been appraised as high as most hardwood tables. Can you explain this?
RobJohnstone	Veneer is a quality product and produces outstanding furnture. Some cheap furniture is veneered ... but that is not due to the veneer
Evil-Winky	You gotta educate them Rick
-Sam-	How will the woodworking channel work? Are the shows on a schedule or will we be able to just click and watch?
Richard	Hello, From Bessemer Alabama
Evil-Winky	Hi Richard
Chris	Rob, where do you see lithium ion battery technology taking woodworking in the years to come?
RobJohnstone	It is early in the tenure of the technology, but a big wheel at Makita says that it is the future of cordless tools with out a doubt.
JoannaTakes	PapaCookie, Ian Kirby's book The Complete Router is a good one.
wvwcraft	What's the woodworking channel?
RobJohnstone	It is a new website that will broadcast woodworking videos online
Chris	So we may be seeing the end of Ni-Cad and even NM Hydride?
glenn	To Sam: Unfortunately I don't have digital cable, which would be an example of how the wood working channel will work. Shows online on a schedule around the world.
RobJohnstone	That's a good question, what do you folks think?
PapaCookie	Thank you JoannaTakes.
wvwcraft	Thanks Rob, can you give me the link?
jburklow	what is the URL for the website?
woodyii	What is the address for the woodworking channel and is it up and running now?
RobJohnstone	www.thewoodworkingchannel,com,
Neil	it be expensive to replace the tools i have now that are ni - cad
Terry	Are many of the people here in the building industry?
Evil-Winky	Gotta check that out
Jack	Just attended the Woodworker show in Milwaukee. Expected to see some new tools and jigs but everthing was pretty much the same. A lot of folks showing how to adjust/tune your power tools. What's in store for us in the line of new tools going forward?
RobJohnstone	All I can tell you is that the tool companies are working hard to come up with new products that you just could not say no to.
jburklow	your link has a comma in it
glenn	Nope. Just a hobbist. Finished a nice checkerboard and some easter decorations,
rick_l	hard to reinvent the wheel
sg	the link is thewoodworkingchannel.com
scott.denison	Build Display Cases for a "second" living.
marciaf	I work in the kitchen/vanity cabinet industry as a co-op student ^_^
Terry	I'm a bricklayer by trade but do quite a bit of woodwork after work and on weekends
rsteffey	Rob will WJ be doing any Green and Green articles or projects in the near future?
RobJohnstone	We have a couple in the hopper. One is an entertainment center for the new flat screen TV's, in the style of the Greene brothers
wvwcraft	battery technology is like computers. It's always changing. Has a long way to go before it is settled
rick_l	trim carpenter /cabint maker here
marciaf	the chat system is weird here, I think I screwed that one up. Sorry about the double send!
JoannaTakes	It's OK, Marcia. :)
Bill	Weekend warrior, myself
glenn	Anyone on this chat use a scrollsaw much? Have a tendancy to get cramps in my hands and wondering how to avoid.
RobJohnstone	Oop, and I almost forgot the Greene and Greene Adorondack chair in the May June issue
Evil-Winky	Gotta admire bricklayers, tough job
Jack	Just a hobbyist...plan to do a lot more woodworking in retirement which is just around the corner
-Sam-	Thanks glenn, I missed your post, I was getting my coffee ready.
Evil-Winky	Ive been in custom woodworking for 20 years
woodyii	A channel like that could and would be a great benifit
Chris	What does everyone think of what seems to be a renaissance in quality hand tools (i.e. Bridge City, Lie Nielsen, etc.)? Are you folks heavy into hand tools, or is yours a power tool shop? Or a mix of both?
Terry	Rick,is a trim carpenter the one who does the inside fix outs?
rsteffey	A entertainment center in G &G will be interesting.
Neil	im a disabled vet and do this for a hobby
Terry	I've been bricklaying for almost 37 years now Evil-Winky ,started when i was 15
RobJohnstone	I think hand tools will gain some popularity in the next few years
Evil-Winky	Chris, just go what works for you
glenn	I think everyone looking forward to the new "WWC" online. Reed has some outstanding ideas.
RobJohnstone	Neil, which war were you in?
rick_l	inside fix outs?
marciaf	most of the machines I work with are computerized. CNC and edge banders at the moment. I'd like to get more experience with hand tools, but I find I'm better with CNC.
wvwcraft	Glenn: Take frequent breaks and move your hands around to help with your hands cramping
floyd	i'm making a cherry table top it is starting to cup, i put some pieces onn the underside to help flatten it out , but it's not working, help
Neil	none i was in during the iran hostages
-Sam-	Rob, do you still have any old tools you still use today? If so which one?
RobJohnstone	I have a bunch. One of my favorites is a 1960 Stanely router. I call it my tower of power (a half a horse power)
Evil-Winky	doesnt matter what works for others, just do what your happy with. But Ideas are always good. Keep an open mind
Terry	We call fitting of doors ,skirtings ,architraves around windows etc Fix-outs in Australia Rick
rick_l	did you glue up a top, ho many pieces, reeverse cup?
scott.denison	How thick is the Table top?
Jack	Did you alternate the grain, bark side in and out on every other board?
RobJohnstone	What time is it down under?
rick_l	I use block planes and chiels all the time
floyd	one inchthick
floyd	42
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Chris	Floyd: The tabletop will probably flatten out when you attach it to the aprons. Is it still just a glued up panel at this point?
Terry	1.17pm Rob,I'm home as I"ve just had a hernia repair last week
scott.denison	Solid, or laminate?
glenn	Sam: Thanks. Don't know why cramping up. Just made 58 checkers today and feeling it hours later.
floyd	42" wide 7 pieces and alternated them
Terry	So my son a couple of mates are holding the fort at work
RobJohnstone	Ouch!
Jack	Another thought...did you use cauls or weights to hold the entire surface down when you did the glue up?
walnut	just read you 2-14 e-news ...GREAT
RobJohnstone	Thanks
-Sam-	Wow, Rob! It must be a low powered unit. That's cool!
floyd	i already tried to flatten it that way but no good
sg	Hi all, just a note for my fellow "lurkers" -- If you hang out for a while and don't say anything, the chat software may time out on you. If it does, just refresh the page and log in again.
RobJohnstone	And it is very noisy!
John_M	What kind of glue do you use the most....
walnut	ha ha
floyd	it was flat to start with,but in the last 3 weeks its cupped more
RobJohnstone	Depends on what I an doing ... what about you guy
RobJohnstone
PapaCookie	Hey Joanna...I have searched for the book at several online bookstores....can't find it...is it out of print?
JoannaTakes	Did you try Cambium Press?
wvwcraft	how much cupping on the table top?
BacsiBob	Guess I better say Hi!, from bleak and desolate NW Ohio
BMerr	Tite bond
dmc	try angle iron to help with the flatness
Dale	Don't want to get timed out. This is interesting - my first time in a chat room.
dantonrj	Just saying hello from the frozen north(Canada) so I don't time out.
Chris	I like the new TItebond 3, but I still notice some creep over time.
RobJohnstone	To flatten that table, rip down the length and re-glue -- that may do the trick
Evil-Winky	Floyd I usually flute back and Ive never had one come back
Dresdner	SG: Is that you, Sgian?
sg	fellow lurkers unite! good to hear from all of you (c:
turtledove	Hello from Illinois....just lurking and learning
scott.denison	If you can flatten it with weight I'd try to attach the apron with cross-supports and see if it stabilizes.
floyd	from one side to the other with a straight edge in the middle about 3/8"
Terry	I have used some big weights to straighten out some cupped pieces of timber,the barbell type ones
Bill_Nichols	hello from south alabama
BacsiBob	Chris, that's what the brads are for
sg	Nope sg from wj (c:
jjsaintla	hello from Louisiana
Bill	Rob, on glue, can a chart be generated to show various times on different popular wood glues sometime
RobJohnstone	Franklin Glue has a great website that I am pretty sure has the chart you are asking about. I love their site.
Terry	You can concentrate the weight pretty well with them I've found,but of course not always
Luis	Hello everybody from Montreal
rbadum	Hello from PA.... I'd like some advise on what band saw to buy....
RobJohnstone	That's a good question, what do you folks think?
glenn	? to chat. How can u make a boarder in oak with "Tight" miters? Just finished a checker board, and no matter how hard I tried, still a slight gap.
Chief	Hello From Kansas.
floyd	should i add any moisture to either side first?
PapaCookie	Thanks Joanna..it wasn't there either.
JoannaTakes	Dresdner, what's Richard Sorsky's web site?
Terry	Hello Luis,how are you going?
scott.denison	Same here with the weights - that old weight bench finally has a use!
Bruce	Have you started to finish the table top? You do need to finish both sides equally.
sparsparkster	Bob I'm in Defiance Oh, Didn't realize there where other ww in OH. I thought that because all the shows are someplace else.
Jack	Depends on what you want to use it for
prestonbill	hello from the great northwet. just a time out quest.
DanWKelly	So I don't time out hello from VA
jjsaintla	seeing the history tonight about cost of wood, i cannot but tell you all the 100's of thousands of board feet of wood that is being destroyed down in the hurricane areas, really pains my heart
jcarver	I've been very happy with my Grizzly 14" bandsaw
wvwcraft	I just bought a Jet 16". Great machine.
Terry	G/day Chief
richwood	hello from marshall,tx...hello toall
cfs001	Hello from Iowa.
WoodApprentice	I don't own a bandsaw yet myself, so I'd be interested in the answer for rbadum as well.
rsteffey	The one most people think is the best is the mm16
BacsiBob	Glenn: An old finish carpenter trick....cut it oversized and belt sand it to fit
Jack	If you are cutting them on a table saw, a miter jig, even a homemade one, does great miters
floyd	i'm just in the sanding stage
rick_l	i have a Jet 18" good for my all around needs
Chris	I love my Laguna 16HD, but the ceramic guides are expensive to replace. I haven't had to replace them yet, but they will chip if the blade breaks. And, the blades are pretty spendy.
Dresdner	Don't know, Joanna. Who is Richard Sorsky?
JoannaTakes	You are no help.
Terry	Yes,thats right Scott,they were finally good for something
rbadum	What did the Grizzly cost you?
scott.denison	14" Delta
BacsiBob	Spar: No Kidding...I am coming to Defiance tomorrow
larryletourneau	larry from monroe mj. hello
rsteffey	I have a old 14 inch Delta and a older 20 inch Delta and I wouldn't swap for anything new
BacsiBob	I am outside North Baltimore
Luis	Hi Terry , I am doing well, what about you?
Evil-Winky	Floyd, How did you fasten it?
marciaf	I've always wanted a bandsaw. just a little one to cut out quasi "carvings"...
Dresdner	Nothing new there...
mark	to rj, hope you can keep this in some semblance of order
Chief	Just bought A 14" Craftsman Works good. Have to buy their blades or make your own. Thier 99 3/4"
rbadum	I'm concerned about buying too small a saw.... should I go with at leant a 14 inch
-Sam-	Rob, if you could have the skills of a well known woodworker, who would it be?
RobJohnstone	I think it would be my friend Ian Kirby ... but I would want his knowledge too,
SteveDallas	I am re-finishing a "newly raw" ponderosa pine table top made by my father-in-law in 1968. We plan to use it in our cabin and I am looking for a good non-blochy medium brown//orange stain to use under some type of poly (for durability). I'm considering garnet shellac.. any comments? Would BLO or Teak Oil bloch on pine?
sparsparkster	I'm about to go with MM 24" bandsaw
PapaCookie	Hello fellow Northwesterners
genereyn	I'm using a Rikon 18" with a Lenox bimetal 1" blade for ripping and resawing. Pretty nice.
jcarver	I think the Grizzly was 375 + 50 for shipping. Their website at www.grizzley.com is very easy to nagigate.
rbadum	thanks for advise on the bandsaw guys...
sawblade	Hello for Fl.
Evil-Winky	Salute to the moderater
RobJohnstone	It has gone way out of control, sorry Mark.
wvwcraft	I use a Incra miter sled on my table saw for miters. Can get them very accurate
Dale	I've gp an old Woodmizer 3 wheeler- don't know if they're still being made. Beeen a good one.
glenn	To BacsiBob: Actually I tried that and created more problems than fixes. The gap I'm talking about is 1/32 of an inch on 1 miter. Guess that's why we have wood filler.
Terry	Good thanks mate,are you a keen woodworker?
floyd	how did i fasten what?
-Sam-	::biggrin
jcarver	Just looked on the website again and it is 425 + shipping
sg	hey all just posting so I can continue to lurk
BacsiBob	Bacsibob has a new buddy in Defiance, OH..He will soon have a 24" bandsaw
rbadum	thanks
RobJohnstone	Now you are just bragging!
joe	hello from Minnesota
SteveDallas	How wide a blade will your new 24" bandsaw accept?
RobJohnstone	That's a good question, what do you folks think?
RobJohnstone	So, what is your favorite project you ever made?
sparsparkster	Bob What could bring you here? It's empty now every one went home
Luis	I am trying to lern the basics of woodcarving,. Can somnebody recommend me a good book to start with?
BacsiBob	Bob and sparkster will resaw all the ash trees that have been wasted around here
lwitherow	hello from spokane
RobJohnstone	Check out amazon for your books
Dresdner	I have a 20" bandsaw and it handles 1 inch blades easily.
wvwcraft	My favorite project is a set of end tables I am currently working on
Evil-Winky	I built a entertainment center to look just like the customers boat
BacsiBob	My fav is the TS router table extension I am currently making
SteveDallas	A Craftsmans style walnut Rocking Chair - answering Rob.
Neil	Rob, im new to this but id say the first box jig i made that worked. it is a good feeling
marciaf	as a student I haven't made as many projects as I'd like. I think soft maple pedestal table in first year was my favourite. it turned out really nicely.
Dresdner	Favorite project I ever made: my kids.
WoodApprentice	Rob: I haven't made mine yet--a small tool chest.
Evil-Winky	That was a challenge
larryletourneau	how many teeth per inch for resawing oak
rsteffey	Tough question, since I have made every piece of furniture in my house I like them all
Gene_bowman	Rob, I just moved and I am building my shop from scatch, How high should I build my miter saw stand? Thanks Gene Bowman
RobJohnstone	I like countertop level about 36". But it really depends on how tall you are.
SteveDallas	Books by Chris Pye are great woodcarving books..
lwitherow	my favorite was raised panel doors
BacsiBob	Sparkster: I just finished teaching a whole-house electric course for GM employess in Defiance
scott.denison	My favorite is usally the NEXT one I have planned - while the current one makes me pull my hair out!
Bill	a hutch/china closet for my wife with pine
jjsaintla	built a wet bar at my parent's house finished it like glass 24 years ago, still looks like the day it was finished
RobJohnstone	Keep what hair you have!
Evil-Winky	and I like lutefisk
RobJohnstone	Youb are eveil
richwood	was the crafsman rocker from Paul Sellers?
-Sam-	Dresdner, is that Michael Dresdner?
glenn	I would say a jewelry box for my daughter that stands 40" high and weighs 100lbs. Made frm recyled mahogany.
Terry	I like a particuliar blanket box that I made some time ago .
PapaCookie	I stand 6'4" and the work tables in the restaurant are 36...too short for me
turtledove	my favorite project I made I think was a decorative fence complete with arbor gateway and matching well house and wagon from landscape timbers...really stands out on our property
Evil-Winky	just a side note
sparsparkster	That's because we are all going to be laid off
Chief	3 Teeth pr inch for resaw
SteveDallas	yes
BMerr	My favorite is the entertainment center I made for my son.
scott.denison	Forgot to mention - I have no hair left
marciaf	that's a big jewelry box o_o
Bruce	I like lutefisk too, I'm a swede from Minnesota.
RobJohnstone	So Papa, you should try about 40"
Guido	Full-wall fireplace - flanked by bookshelves
Jack	Mike I trust all is well now with your family?
BacsiBob	Sparkster..I heard a rumor that as much as 3 months layoff per employee
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larryletourneau	thanks chief
Neil	i think the side table you made bruce is mine
sparsparkster	We're going to need something to fall back on Bob. Maybe we all can be teachers?
Dresdner	Jack -- If I am the Mike you are addressing; yes, they are all fine, thank you.
wvwcraft	Rob, Is there a place on the journal's website to post project pics?
RobJohnstone	Not just yet. We planning to add it to a website upgrade.
JIM	I AM LOOKING FOR PLANS TO MAKE A GLIDER WITH A WILDLIFE BACKREST( DEER- FISH-PHEASANT ) IVE SEEN SIMALAR ONE AT AMISH STORES BUT CANT FIND ANY WHERE TO GET THE PLANS
JoannaTakes	You can find plans for a glider at shop for plans on www.woodworkersjournal.com
mark	bachelors chest from wwj overten years ago
-Sam-	thanks for the info sg!
Evil-Winky	You know, I find woodworkers are the best
Luis	My favorite project was a bar and a sushi bar for a friend
sparsparkster	I'm going back next week after a week off. There will be more to come.
Jack	Mike, you may not recognize the first name but we are known to each other :}:}:} CutlassRG
Evil-Winky	all great people
rbadum	Can some recommend good quality - low cost router bits...thanks!
Chief	Injoy your emails ROB. Keep it up.
Gene_bowman	Rob, Thanks, how high should I make my center work bench? Gene Bowman
RobJohnstone	I would keep that surface at a comfortable level as it accomodates the saw,
Terry	People also seem to like the way I built cabinets around an open fire that I built out of bricks under the patio area at the back of my house.
BacsiBob	Sparkster: I am thinking about approaching auto plants to teach basic woodworking
FL_AL	HELLO FROM NW FLORIDA
glenn	I believe I got plans for j-box frm "u-bld." Also holds lingerie.
RobJohnstone	Sounds great
Jack	Yes Mr "D" LOL I am addressing you. Mac Simmons would say HI
PapaCookie	for my parents 36th anniversary in 1990 I created a plaque with routered edges and then some decorative work on the face ...wood burned in their names...then mine and wifes....our three children....my sister and her husband and their two children and sent it to them...they still have it hanging to this day
Evil-Winky	Gotta have a great mind to work with wood
PapaCookie	with birthdates and wedding dates included
Evil-Winky	It can be unforgiving
marciaf	that would be interesting to see. especially for students. the site is a good reference for those of us young people still learning ^_^
Chris	Okay everyone, let's talk favorite woods. I know specific wood for specific purposes, but everyone's got a favorite. Care to share?
Neil	Rob, have you ever hear were one could get a wood burning tool to mark your projects, but its a type were you can build your own words?
JoannaTakes	Check out the site of our sponsor, Rockler Woodworking and Hardware, at www.rockler.com, for their branding irons.
WoodApprentice	Walnut
PapaCookie	Cedar
BacsiBob	Winky...that's funny, I didn't start woodworking until I lost my mind
Evil-Winky	Purple Heart
PapaCookie	love the smell...
Dresdner	Jack -- that still did not help. You have to remember that I'm getting old enough that I need all the help I can get just to remember things that happened recently.
scott.denison	Redwood Burl
Terry	I'm a pretty ordinary woodworker Evil-Winky,but i have lots of fun doing it
BacsiBob	WALNUT
DanWKelly	Least favorite wood is pine
wvwcraft	Rob, When making a table top with a solid border, what is a good combination of materials to use so the interior panel contrasts the border?
RobJohnstone	I like subtle contrasts like walnut and cherry. Also, Maple and cherry.
marciaf	soft maple for the win!
floyd	cherry
larryletourneau	l made a hall way table out of oak came out great
Dresdner	Red Alder
Dale	Yellow poplar
richwood	love to turn OAK om p/my 45 e
glenn	My son made some interesting shelves out of Maple. Not 1 straight side to them. So I would say I like the look of Maple.
dmc	%%%%%-willow
Evil-Winky	well then Your on the right trackBob
rsteffey	Being in this business I get to work with most all kinds of wood but cherry is my favorite
Bill	Don't laugh, good ole' #2 pine. Easy on the tools!
Terry	Do you get cypress pine over there,it has a distinctive smell as well
Bill_Nichols	FL_AL - where in nw fl..... Dothan, AL here
Terry	It grows all around here in rural NSW
wvwcraft	I like Mahogany and Walnut for dark; cherry and oak for lighter colores
marciaf	maple is a lot more forgiving to finish, I find. I hate pine, though I love the smell.
-Sam-	Rob, have you met Jimmy Carter in person? If so, what was that experience like?
RobJohnstone	No, security kept me out of the photo shoot> I did run into Walter Mondale at my local dog park. He has a great English Setter.
sparsparkster	I wouldn't take you up on that but I would for a course that promises me fail proof woodworking or at least as good as Ian Kirby. How about it?
Luis	Black Walnut
Neil	id have to say cherry is mine
BacsiBob	Cherry is my #2
FL_AL	MARY ESTHER, FL --- BILL
WoodApprentice	Cherry is my #2, too!
Dresdner	Russ Filbeck met with Carter in person. A piece about him is scheduled to show up in the next issue of the eZine this Tuesday.
Evil-Winky	Cherry is beautiful
Chris	I tried port orford cedar a while ago, and it smells unreal--in a good way. Every time I open a drawer made from it. Like a nice reminder of building the project.
Jack	Mike LOL, we have talked many times, you me, Kevin Hancock, Mac Custom Carpentry is Co. Last I heard I believe your daughter was ill
John_M	Rob.... Do you use an 18 ga brad gun for toenailing???? What size brads do you use??
RobJohnstone	Not for construction. In the shop it is a fine size.
Evil-Winky	wood is what you make it
BacsiBob	I just finished an end table (it's match is a pile of mistakes on my bench). Hickory, Cherry and Walnut. I do not like working with hickory..thought I would..bought 500 bf.
Evil-Winky	no matter the species
glenn	I'm signing off. Interesting chats. 4 AM gets here mighty fast. Glenn
scott.denison	Anyone out there have antique power tools still running in their shop?
sg	What your favorite kind of wood, Rob?
RobJohnstone	I like hickory. It is really hard but beautiful.
RobJohnstone	By Glen
sparsparkster	Dan I agree, nothing messes up my cutters like pine
FL_AL	THINKING OF BUYING A GENERAL 50-185M TABLE SAW, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING GOOD OR BAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS SAW --- THANKS
RobJohnstone	Which one is that. Cabinet saw or contractors?
marcoswoodworks	hey whats up, i'm i in the wrong room I thought that this chat session was on how we started woodworking or did i miss it
JoannaTakes	It's a free-flowing conversation. You can still answer that question if you'd like.
dantonrj	What do most of you pay for wood. I can get red oak for $2.00 a board foot and cherry for 3. Is this about the norm for undressed lumber?
Evil-Winky	Its all beautiful
mark	cherry,oak,sassafras,and butternut
Guido	I made a set of custom pistol grips from cherry for my son
sg	Night, Glenn
BacsiBob	Night Glenn
Evil-Winky	I agree Rob
rsteffey	Scott most of my shop is owwm
Jack	Oak is nice to work with
glenn	SOOOOOOOOOOOlong Rob. Keep us posted on next chat OK?
JoannaTakes	We will. (And keep checking the schedule page at www.woodworkersjournal.com/chat
rollenburg	anyone have a "good" palm sander that they like??
richwood	I HAVE A HAND DRILL
Bill	Scott; Just revived an old Craftsman 4" joiner, working great!
Guido	Why do my comments keep showing up as questijons?
Terry	I use lots of pine here as I get it for nothing from my brother''s transportable home business.They throw heaps of radiata pine,treated pine and cypress pine away
wvwcraft	Rob, What would you say would be a good all around circular saw blade?
RobJohnstone	For a table saw or chop saw. There are some really good combination blades out there. Red, orange and silver ... they all cut good
DanWKelly	I have a lot of pine flooring I took out of a 1762 farm house my son owned. I cant work with it because of the way it gums up my sanding belts on my drum sander.
FL_AL	THATS A CONTRACTORS' SAW
Chris	Anyone think quartersawn oak isn't what it used to be, in terms of workability? Some say the new growth lumber isn't all that stable anymore.
marciaf	I'm in canada so the prices are somewhat skewed by exchange...
Terry	It all turns out pretty well for appearance after it is stained
Dresdner	My Festool is my favorite sander
BacsiBob	Mark..never worked butternut..we have some trees in the back yard...what is it like?
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Evil-Winky	If your gonna paint, Poplar is #1
PapaCookie	yeah...I love my B&D Mouse Sander...
Neil	Rob, what do you think of the Freud glue line saw balde?
RobJohnstone	Freud makes great product. I was at their factory in Italy and it was very impressive. Very high tech.
JIM	WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE GRIP TITE IS IT WORTH THE MONEY
Gene_bowman	This is great. I am 83 and took my traiining at Palomar College in Escondido, Ca. in 87 and 88. Gene Bowman
Jack	right now I am paying 3.25 bd ft for Red Oak 4/4 skip planed to 15/16
sparsparkster	guido Mine too I think it's suppose to
Jack	Freud or Amana are the blades of choice for my shop
Evil-Winky	Salute to you Gene
wvwcraft	Dewalt makes a nice comfy palm sander with litte vibration
marcoswoodworks	Its Been A Pleasure,Well Talk At ya Later Marco
DanWKelly	I just brought a 5 horse delta table saw and when I asked about a blade stiffner I was told that it was not necessary. I was told to use a regular blad and not a thin Kert blade. Is this right?
Dresdner	Gene -- look for an article on Palomar College in the upcoming issue of the eZine this coming Tuesday.
-Sam-	Rob, what's the best way to get a back issue? I was interested in getting the October 2005 issue. "Adrift in a Sea of Cordless Drills" I'm shopping for a cordless drill and want to make the right decision in getting one. For everybody else, which drill is your favorite and why?
RobJohnstone	I am sorry to say that we are sold out of that issue. It was very popular
sg	Bye, Marco
mark	butternut is softer than walnut and can be fuzzy, but it is a pale walnut
floyd	well got t go ty bye
Evil-Winky	Thats right Gene
scott.denison	B&D Mouse - for a palm sander
Chris	Buying "shorts" can be a great way to save money on hardwood. Not too long ago, I paid $1.50 BF for white oak, and the pieces are darn clear. But, they're random lengths in 4 to 6 ft.
PapaCookie	Right now I am working on an N-Scale Model Railroad Layout....
Jack	Panasonic hands down
marciaf	at my work we use a lot of dewalt drills. the smaller ones are really nice for people with small hands like me...
Evil-Winky	I have the same saw
RobJohnstone	Dan, you don't need a blade stiffener. I don't use one even with a thin kerf blade
rollenburg	I use Dewalt cordless drills in my school shop and they hold up to 9th and 11th graders!! Now, that's really putting them to the test!! They have worked good!
Evil-Winky	Agree Rob
BacsiBob	Sam..I have 2 PC 9 v. and 2 14 v. I love 'em cause they are like the Eveready Bunny
Dresdner	I agree. I use thin kerf blades without stiffeners
DanWKelly	Rob thank you.
Chris	I still like my old P-C random orbit palm sander. I think the model is 333. Definitely stick with hook and loop pads.
-Sam-	Ouch! Thanks for letting me know Rob. Is it safe to let me know which of the drills was picked as the best one overall?
JoannaTakes	Send an email to editor@woodworkersjournal.com and we'll let you know the picks in the different categories.
Gene_bowman	What do you th;ink of African Mahjogony for making Tables and bookcases Gene B
richwood	ooops .walnut
Evil-Winky	deWalt series 40 blades are great
BacsiBob	Another vote for PC sanders..quarter sheet and RO 5"
Evil-Winky	and I like Lefse to
Dale	Just bought a Ridgid combo from Home Depot - ask them about the lifetime warranty - even on the batteries.
PapaCookie	Well folks...this was enjoyable...I need to run....May you always have good food, good drink, great friends to share with, and the blessings of God in your lives!! Vaya con Dios mis amigas y amigos!
-Sam-	rollenburg and BacsiBob, thanks for your reply!
rollenburg	I have an 18 v. at home and I love it...but it does get heavy! Depends on the jobs you're doing. I think If I havd to do it again I'd buy the 14.4V.
richwood	What do I need to watch out for on cutting /resawing black walnur?
RobJohnstone	Resawing is best done with a wide blade. Also, I like a point fence that will allow you to adjust to blade drift or a warping cut off. In general, a steady feed rate and an eye to blade drift
sg	Good night, PapaCookie
Jack	Vaya con Dios Buenos Noche
Neil	good night papa
scott.denison	For those of you who do this for a living: Any good tips for Web advertising your business?
Chris	Fein's new HandyMaster drills are pretty nice. Lightweight, easy to grip and with nice controls. Kind of spendy, however, but seem to be extremely well made.
FL_AL	GOOD NIGHT ALL
RobJohnstone	Talk to SG
-Sam-	Thank you very much, JoannaTakes! I really need the info!
JoannaTakes	That's (part of) my job. ;)
RobJohnstone	By Al
rollenburg	When I resaw, I will cut up from each edge with my table saw and then finish cutting on the band saw...seems to work better for me.
richwood	THANKS HEARD FROM PAUL SELLERS LATELY?
sg	Advertising is available in our the Woodworker's Journal eZine (c: call 800-878-7137 to talk to our sales folks.
wvwcraft	I recently made a pair of coffee tables using African Mahogany. They look great! Making matching end tables now
Luis	It was very interesting. Good night all
-Sam-	JoannaTakes, if I send email now, will I get the info right away?
JoannaTakes	No, I don't have the back issues with me now. (And I need to go to bed before going to the office tomorrow.) You will get your answer tomorrow.
rsteffey	Thanks for the fellowship got a hard day tomorrow so later.BFN
cincitoolman	Rob, I want to buy an 8" jointer. I have read at least three different reviews on them. I am still confused on the choice of the cutter head: straight knife or one of the spiral heads. Any advice?
RobJohnstone	The spiral head has real advantages. Even more if it is a true helix and not just a simple spiral. You really pay for the extra technology, but if you can afford it, I recommend it. With that said, there have been millions of board feet of lumber cut with a traditional head.
Gene_bowman	Let us do this more often when is the next one Gene
JoannaTakes	The next chat is scheduled for March 21 with WJ turner Betty Scarpino. You can sign up for a reminder on the woodworkersjournal.com/chat page.
scott.denison	Thanks sg!
Jack	nite
Terry	See you Luis
jonez	What is the subject or is it a free for all
JoannaTakes	Woodturning.
sg	you're welcome, scott
cincitoolman	thanks for the advise on the jointer cutter head
wvwcraft	Good night all. Had fun. Thanks
RobJohnstone	But it might be a free for all!
RobJohnstone	by wwcraft
Chris	I've also heard that the carbide inserts on a spiral cutterhead don't cut as well as traditional steel knives. But, who can argue with how much faster they are to change out! I'd like to try one and see.
Bruce	Dresdner, I'm in the process of building a Hall/Sofa Table out 1/4 Sawn White Oak. I plan to finish it with Watco Danish Oil. My wife will be using it for a potted plants. Will Watco Wipe-on Poly be better or should I use Polyurathane varnish to protect it from spilled water.
marciaf	is the chat just one hour?
JoannaTakes	Yes; we'll be ending pretty soon here.
Bill	This is great, to see all in real time
sparsparkster	Well Bob You didn't answer my ? Can you make me as good as Ian Kerby in 12 easy lessons?
RobJohnstone	Yes, If you promise to practise hard for five or ten years between lessons.
-Sam-	Thank you Joanna! Oops, sorry, for some weird reason I thought you guys were in the office! Thank you very, very much!
JoannaTakes	No...we don't hang out there *all* the time.
BacsiBob	Speaking of cordless drills..I just bought my first (14v.) cordless impact driver. It is the only way to drive screws. I put a #8 deck screw thru a piece of hickory without drilling..it split the wood and kept going.
Neil	well time for me to go to bed, good night all and thank you for the intersting chat
Dresdner	Bruce -- any of those three will protect from water spills provided they form a thick enough film and that you do not let the water sit too long.
rollenburg	I got here late..have fun...see ya next time...thanks
RobJohnstone	Ta ta Neil
Terry	Goodnight Neil
sg	good night, Neil. Glad you found the chat interesting
BacsiBob	sorry sparkster...missed it. No...I can teach you how to keep your fingers though
BMerr	Nite Neil
Jack	Rob Johnstone Just want to say the article about the little Metabo Powermaxx was very good, really had a laff tho I ordered ti and the next day the issue came out with the review . Glad you liked it :}:}
richwood	GOOD CHAT
-Sam-	::biggrin
sparsparkster	ok
Terry	I thought only Aussies and Pommies said "tut ah" Rob
RobJohnstone	Hey you folks were great tonight. It was a lot of fun and we will be doing it again. Keep your eye on our website for more dates. The room will be closing soon. Thanks again.
larryletourneau	been fun see you next time
sparsparkster	nite all
sparsparkster	Thanks Rob
marciaf	thanks for hosting it! goodnight!
Bill_Nichols	thank you
Chris	Nite everyone!
RobJohnstone	We are very civil up here in Minnesota
BacsiBob	Thank you Rob and Joanna and sg
BacsiBob	Night all
Chief	nite all
Terry	It was interesting to talk to you all ,catch you next time for sure
BMerr	Nite to all
sg	Good night, everyone. Hope to "see" again on March 21st
Dale	Thanks a bunch. It was fun.
Bill	Good night everybody
-Sam-	Thanks Woodworker's Journal Crew and everyone else! It was great!
WoodApprentice	Thanks so much, Rob (and all). Good night from Tennessee...
RobJohnstone	Thank you, I had a blast
Jack	Mike best to you and yours
richwood	Starting time was just right.. thanks
Dresdner	Thanks
Guido	Happy sawing, everyone.
Evil-Winky	Good night you maniacs
jerryweaver	looking forward to the next one!
scott.denison	Back to work G'night all!
BacsiBob	Thanks winky..will try butternut soon
Evil-Winky	Come on down Rob We will catch some Walleye
RobJohnstone	I am ready lets wet a line
Evil-Winky	Night all, I enjoyed My time here. Watcos good, but use a catalyzed lacqer on top
BacsiBob	Will work for walleye
RobJohnstone	YOu have to work for walleye
JoannaTakes	Thanks to all who participated, and to Rob our speaker and Rockler Woodworking and Hardware our sponsor...and to all a good night.