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	<title>Comments on: The Sad State of Workbenches (Part 1): What Used to Be Right</title>
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		<title>By: Joe K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hm. I like the shoulder vise idea; it&#039;s an interesting alternative to the leg vises (though those are prettier). And as the pic shows, there&#039;s still room for a metal vise on the end of the shoulder if you want one of those too.

My house came with a basic homebrew bench with _no_ vise. I&#039;ve been considering cleaning it up and adding vise(s). Unfortunately I have limited space, so I&#039;m a bit hesitant to do much that would extend it forward, which makes me hesitate to consider trying to retrofit a shoulder... if that would even be possible.

Interesting point about square dogs; I haven&#039;t had enough experience with dogging large pieces to have any good sense of how much more stable they are.

Likewise re the staggered holes in the end vise&#039;s jaws, though I&#039;m not sure that would save enough time/effort to make any real difference for an amateur.

I&#039;m still skeptical about hollowing the benchtop for the tool bin, BTW. Yeah, it keeps stuff from rolling off the bench, but I&#039;m not convinced it&#039;s any more convenient than storage under the bench would be and it seems to either cut into useful bench surface or force the bench to be deeper than otherwise necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. I like the shoulder vise idea; it&#8217;s an interesting alternative to the leg vises (though those are prettier). And as the pic shows, there&#8217;s still room for a metal vise on the end of the shoulder if you want one of those too.</p>
<p>My house came with a basic homebrew bench with _no_ vise. I&#8217;ve been considering cleaning it up and adding vise(s). Unfortunately I have limited space, so I&#8217;m a bit hesitant to do much that would extend it forward, which makes me hesitate to consider trying to retrofit a shoulder&#8230; if that would even be possible.</p>
<p>Interesting point about square dogs; I haven&#8217;t had enough experience with dogging large pieces to have any good sense of how much more stable they are.</p>
<p>Likewise re the staggered holes in the end vise&#8217;s jaws, though I&#8217;m not sure that would save enough time/effort to make any real difference for an amateur.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still skeptical about hollowing the benchtop for the tool bin, BTW. Yeah, it keeps stuff from rolling off the bench, but I&#8217;m not convinced it&#8217;s any more convenient than storage under the bench would be and it seems to either cut into useful bench surface or force the bench to be deeper than otherwise necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Prunest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Prunest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article! My work station just has a typical top, shelves underneath to hold things, a few drawers, and a vise. Reading this article and seeing what my station could look like, makes me think my next project should be building a station with that much functionality. Thanks for the great read and keep up good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! My work station just has a typical top, shelves underneath to hold things, a few drawers, and a vise. Reading this article and seeing what my station could look like, makes me think my next project should be building a station with that much functionality. Thanks for the great read and keep up good work.</p>
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